Comments on: Though I Try to Control Myself, Like a Fool I Start Grinnin’ ‘Cause my Head Starts Spinnin’ http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/ Got no Money, Got no Car, Got no Women, But You're here Reading this Anyway Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:13:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Liam http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2884 Liam Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:20:08 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2884 Danger: Thanks. I'll slip over to your blog and take a read. I assume that explains what you've been training for. Danger: Thanks. I’ll slip over to your blog and take a read. I assume that explains what you’ve been training for.

]]> By: Liam http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2883 Liam Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:19:49 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2883 Wolfgang: I never said hockey wasn't hard. I also didn't say that hockey players have no cardio skillz. It doesn't matter if you're following 45on/ 45off for 2 minutes or an hour. If you wanted to spend that same ammount of time doing a real cardio workout, you would get much better results. If I jerked off vigorously for an hour, that would also have a cardio spinoff. But it wouldn't be a direct cardio workout. Especially if I stopped every 45 seconds. Wolfgang: I never said hockey wasn’t hard. I also didn’t say that hockey players have no cardio skillz.

It doesn’t matter if you’re following 45on/ 45off for 2 minutes or an hour. If you wanted to spend that same ammount of time doing a real cardio workout, you would get much better results.

If I jerked off vigorously for an hour, that would also have a cardio spinoff. But it wouldn’t be a direct cardio workout. Especially if I stopped every 45 seconds.

]]> By: Liam http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2882 Liam Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:19:38 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2882 Granite: It's agree 100%. It does get quite lame once you delve into it. But that... was sort of my whole point. The lines that separate 'athletes' from the larger body of 'players' (as all sports are a subset of games) refuse to be cut and dry. Once you move away from things that are obviously sports and things that are obviously non-sports, there is so much room for fruitful argument! Granite: It’s agree 100%. It does get quite lame once you delve into it. But that… was sort of my whole point. The lines that separate ‘athletes’ from the larger body of ‘players’ (as all sports are a subset of games) refuse to be cut and dry. Once you move away from things that are obviously sports and things that are obviously non-sports, there is so much room for fruitful argument!

]]> By: Andrew http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2877 Andrew Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:43:30 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2877 Well, I won't argue with you on the classification of exercise then, you did take 3 terms of post secondary education in the field. Your argument on the body type required is a nice touch too, it really illustrates the difference. I've been training for long distance running for a few weeks now and I really noticed the drop in muscle in my upper body that's gone along with it. Actually, that reminds of a post I should be writing. Well, I won’t argue with you on the classification of exercise then, you did take 3 terms of post secondary education in the field.

Your argument on the body type required is a nice touch too, it really illustrates the difference. I’ve been training for long distance running for a few weeks now and I really noticed the drop in muscle in my upper body that’s gone along with it. Actually, that reminds of a post I should be writing.

]]> By: wolfgang http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2876 wolfgang Fri, 17 Apr 2009 03:42:37 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2876 About hockey players... 45 on 45 off doesnt sound too bad when they get a chance to recover like that... but consider 60 minutes of it. I used to play hockey up until highschool (the easy ice hockey) and by the 3rd period, when you needed to rush you could feel it (or I could at least). Alot of sports are far more deceiving than they appear. Badminton, for example, is a huge cardio workout (esp. singles), and so is dragon boating which I have recently taken up. You could be benching 200lbs & have solid 'guns' but if you dont know how to paddle you're fucked. it takes ALOT of cardio & alot of technique. About hockey players…

45 on 45 off doesnt sound too bad when they get a chance to recover like that… but consider 60 minutes of it. I used to play hockey up until highschool (the easy ice hockey) and by the 3rd period, when you needed to rush you could feel it (or I could at least).

Alot of sports are far more deceiving than they appear. Badminton, for example, is a huge cardio workout (esp. singles), and so is dragon boating which I have recently taken up.

You could be benching 200lbs & have solid ‘guns’ but if you dont know how to paddle you’re fucked. it takes ALOT of cardio & alot of technique.

]]> By: Granite http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2873 Granite Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:14:07 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2873 You make a good point. I don't know. Some of the events that have been contested or even demonstrated at the Summer Olympics seem really stupid. Too many individual sports I think. They are more fun to do, less fun to watch. Kayaking? Who wants to watch someone kayak? I'd love to go kayaking, but I wouldn't want people to suffer through watching. But yeah. I see what you're saying. Summer Olympics = mostly phony sports. Summer Olympians = athletes. Starcraft = phony sport. Starcraft players = Summer Olympians. Lame. Such a poor standard to judge other athletes on. For some of the sports. :( You make a good point. I don’t know. Some of the events that have been contested or even demonstrated at the Summer Olympics seem really stupid. Too many individual sports I think. They are more fun to do, less fun to watch. Kayaking? Who wants to watch someone kayak? I’d love to go kayaking, but I wouldn’t want people to suffer through watching.

But yeah. I see what you’re saying. Summer Olympics = mostly phony sports. Summer Olympians = athletes. Starcraft = phony sport. Starcraft players = Summer Olympians.

Lame. Such a poor standard to judge other athletes on. For some of the sports. :(

]]> By: Liam http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2872 Liam Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:50:43 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2872 AAAAAH! Why can't I make a good point anymore? You're right. I was rewatching the video when I noticed the monitors at the beginning. I just kept rewinding from there. Then I skipped ahead a few times, and every time the dudes were resting the guns calibrating them. I fucking swear. "the Summer Olympics are half-phony competitions, making them more or less a huge joke" But what better standard is there? These are supposed to be the greatest athletes in the world! AAAAAH!

Why can’t I make a good point anymore?

You’re right. I was rewatching the video when I noticed the monitors at the beginning. I just kept rewinding from there. Then I skipped ahead a few times, and every time the dudes were resting the guns calibrating them. I fucking swear.

“the Summer Olympics are half-phony competitions, making them more or less a huge joke”

But what better standard is there? These are supposed to be the greatest athletes in the world!

]]> By: Granite http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2871 Granite Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:20:28 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2871 Looking at it, I'm not sure you watched the video. First of all, they are holding the guns. The things that they are resting them on is between shots. I can only assume this is to make it easier for them to maintain the same shot between rounds, or to merely speed up the competition. The LCD monitors that they are using are merely telling them the location of their shots on the target, so that they can see how well they are doing. Nothing about that process is automated, so, your comparison of that to Starcraft seems trivial now. Looking at it, I’m not sure you watched the video.

First of all, they are holding the guns. The things that they are resting them on is between shots. I can only assume this is to make it easier for them to maintain the same shot between rounds, or to merely speed up the competition.

The LCD monitors that they are using are merely telling them the location of their shots on the target, so that they can see how well they are doing.

Nothing about that process is automated, so, your comparison of that to Starcraft seems trivial now.

]]> By: Granite http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/2009/04/15/though-i-try-to-control-myself-like-a-fool-i-start-grinnin-cause-my-head-starts-spinnin/comment-page-1/#comment-2870 Granite Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:10:48 +0000 http://redcardgroup.com/roborant/?p=58#comment-2870 If I could even remember the main thread of this discussion, I'd probably come up with an argument about how the Summer Olympics are half-phony competitions, making them more or less a huge joke. And if that is actually how the Olympic shooting competitions go, then it should no longer be an event. I mean, shooting should require you to train yourself to make the perfect shot. All that relaxing, slowing down your heart rate, etc. stuff from the movies. If it is automated, it shouldn't be a sport. And I cannot help but hope you are incorrect in your comments about how shooting competitions take place at the Summer Olympics. If I could even remember the main thread of this discussion, I’d probably come up with an argument about how the Summer Olympics are half-phony competitions, making them more or less a huge joke.

And if that is actually how the Olympic shooting competitions go, then it should no longer be an event. I mean, shooting should require you to train yourself to make the perfect shot. All that relaxing, slowing down your heart rate, etc. stuff from the movies. If it is automated, it shouldn’t be a sport. And I cannot help but hope you are incorrect in your comments about how shooting competitions take place at the Summer Olympics.

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